Sept. 7, 2023

Feliz Dia da Independência, Brasil! 🇧🇷 {Happy Independence Day, Brazil!}

Feliz Dia da Independência, Brasil! 🇧🇷 {Happy Independence Day, Brazil!}

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In today's episode of Inglês Nu E Cru Rádio, Alexia and Foster talk about Independence Day in Brazil! 

We explore the differences in patriotism between Americans and Brazilians. 
Alexia shares her experiences of celebrating Independence Day in Brazil, and we touch on the significance of September 7th. 
We also highlight the personal independence that can be gained through language learning. 

Happy Independence Day to all our Brazilian listeners! 🇧🇷

Transcript
WEBVTT 00:00:00.776 --> 00:00:05.600 Hello, hello, hey sweet people and welcome to another episode of English Nui 00:00:05.600 --> 00:00:08.202 Curu Hájú. My name is Foster. 00:00:09.143 --> 00:00:22.252 I am an English teacher, a podcaster, and as always, I am here with the one, the only… Alexia. 00:00:23.954 --> 00:00:27.097 Hello, everyone. Hello, Foster. How are you today? 00:00:27.097 --> 00:00:31.700 I am doing wonderfully. How are you doing, Alexia? 00:00:32.401 --> 00:00:39.726 I'm doing good. And as a matter of fact, I'm recording from home and Foster 00:00:39.726 --> 00:00:44.950 is recording from our co-working space because of logistics. 00:00:44.950 --> 00:00:54.297 Yeah, logistical difficulties. There was a lot of construction happening near 00:00:54.297 --> 00:00:59.080 our apartment, so we're doing it just like the old days recording remotely. 00:01:01.502 --> 00:01:07.665 Yeah, yeah, and before we can dive in in the episode. 00:01:08.745 --> 00:01:09.626 Before we can what? 00:01:09.626 --> 00:01:11.787 Dive in. 00:01:11.787 --> 00:01:13.948 Dive in. 00:01:13.948 --> 00:01:19.681 In. There we go. Dive in the episode. 00:01:21.993 --> 00:01:23.133 Happy Independence Day. 00:01:25.355 --> 00:01:32.119 Happy Independence Day. It is Brazilian Independence Day, the day of Brazilian independence. 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:36.073 I'm not totally sure how we say that in English. 00:01:37.624 --> 00:01:43.328 But happy day for you, Alexia, And happy day for all of our Brazilian listeners. 00:01:45.649 --> 00:01:53.034 Happy Independence Day. Happy Independence Day, 7th of September. 00:01:54.956 --> 00:01:57.918 Alexia, how are you feeling on Independence Day? 00:01:57.918 --> 00:02:03.301 Normal. I think, I don't know. 00:02:03.301 --> 00:02:09.666 The way that I grew up with the celebrations for Independence Days just like 00:02:09.666 --> 00:02:14.069 once per year on the 7th of September, 00:02:14.069 --> 00:02:23.076 we all went downstairs to our school's patio and we used to sing the hymn. 00:02:25.458 --> 00:02:26.219 The hymn? 00:02:26.959 --> 00:02:27.680 Yeah, you know? 00:02:29.061 --> 00:02:29.821 The hymn. 00:02:29.821 --> 00:02:32.244 Hymn. 00:02:32.244 --> 00:02:38.088 Yeah, so same pronunciation as like hymn and her. Hymn. 00:02:38.088 --> 00:02:39.589 Hymn. 00:02:39.589 --> 00:02:42.031 The national hymn or the national anthem. 00:02:42.431 --> 00:02:50.036 Ah, the national anthem, much better. And it was kind of like this, 00:02:50.036 --> 00:02:55.360 I don't know, maybe other people who were listening to us, they had more important 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:58.943 celebrations or something like that. 00:02:58.943 --> 00:03:05.547 But for my realities, it was only that and it was like, it is a national holiday. 00:03:08.129 --> 00:03:14.370 So no one will work or go to school or some things like that. 00:03:15.370 --> 00:03:19.951 And we all would have a barbecue together and that's it. 00:03:21.362 --> 00:03:24.852 So it sounds very, very Brazilian to me. 00:03:25.532 --> 00:03:32.133 No one goes to work and everyone has a churrasco. Yeah. Beautiful. 00:03:32.133 --> 00:03:37.854 Alexia, can I, just coming from my experience growing up. 00:03:39.028 --> 00:03:46.093 July 4th, Independence Day in the United States, was such a big deal. 00:03:46.093 --> 00:03:55.600 Like it's an event where there are fireworks and we always celebrated at our 00:03:55.600 --> 00:03:58.082 lake house and there was a big party. 00:03:59.363 --> 00:04:06.708 And it's like a big thing. Everyone's super patriotic and it's like one of the 00:04:06.708 --> 00:04:07.829 biggest holidays of the year. 00:04:08.510 --> 00:04:17.216 And also, Americans, they have their flags everywhere, like not only on July 00:04:17.216 --> 00:04:19.357 4th, but throughout the year. 00:04:19.357 --> 00:04:24.661 So I think that you guys are a little bit more patriotic than us Brazilians. 00:04:27.343 --> 00:04:34.688 Yeah, I think I would agree with that. Americans tend to love the American flag 00:04:34.688 --> 00:04:37.610 and putting it anywhere and everywhere. 00:04:40.293 --> 00:04:47.117 So Alexia, I have a lot of questions for you, but I'm going to choose my questions carefully. 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:59.826 I think what I'm most interested in is how does it feel like for you as a Brazilian 00:04:59.826 --> 00:05:05.350 born and raised in Rio de Janeiro on Independence Day, 00:05:05.350 --> 00:05:15.474 you have not lived in Brazil for like five years and you are currently living in Portugal, 00:05:15.474 --> 00:05:24.557 the land which invaded your home country and which this entire day is celebrating 00:05:24.557 --> 00:05:27.979 the independence from the country in which you now live. 00:05:35.329 --> 00:05:39.532 Just like you have a lot of questions, but this one is very specific. 00:05:40.413 --> 00:05:42.154 I don't know. I feel okay. 00:05:42.154 --> 00:05:43.895 How are you feeling about it? 00:05:46.037 --> 00:05:51.640 The more the modern Portugal and the modern Brazil, I think that it's okay nowadays. 00:05:53.762 --> 00:05:57.224 I think no one remembers that it's the Independence Day. 00:05:58.586 --> 00:06:03.309 Like the Portuguese people, they don't remember that it's the Independence Day from Brazil. 00:06:03.810 --> 00:06:11.189 They will remember once they are studying in school, but like usually normal 00:06:11.189 --> 00:06:14.798 days talking to another Portuguese person, no. 00:06:16.420 --> 00:06:22.444 And I think that if I ask someone like our friends, our Portuguese friends, 00:06:22.444 --> 00:06:27.308 like, how do you feel about that? They would say, yeah, good for Brazil. 00:06:27.698 --> 00:06:34.853 God, because Portugal is awful, you know, like you guys did great. Yeah. 00:06:34.853 --> 00:06:41.077 I don't think Portuguese people are, they're over it. It's water under the bridge. 00:06:41.077 --> 00:06:46.741 Águas passadas. That's a good phrase in English. Water under the bridge. 00:06:47.582 --> 00:06:53.525 Water under the bridge. But, but I'm talking about our generation of Portuguese people. 00:06:54.086 --> 00:06:54.386 Yes. 00:06:54.386 --> 00:06:59.611 Okay. Yeah. Let's, this is another discussion. 00:06:59.611 --> 00:07:07.938 Yeah. There are many, many very elderly people, older people in Portugal, 00:07:07.938 --> 00:07:11.000 and maybe they have different perspectives. 00:07:12.382 --> 00:07:17.746 We don't know. Alexia, can I give you a quick pronunciation correction? Yeah. 00:07:19.644 --> 00:07:20.964 That's why we are here. 00:07:22.946 --> 00:07:26.348 That's my job. Can you pronounce the word modern? 00:07:26.348 --> 00:07:39.537 Modern. There we go. Modern. So, the first vowel sound is a, ma, modern. Modern. 00:07:39.537 --> 00:07:41.979 Perfect. 00:07:41.979 --> 00:07:46.942 I was hearing you say something in between, like a, a. 00:07:48.543 --> 00:07:53.887 I'm not sure exactly, we can listen to the recording later, but modern. That's perfect. 00:07:53.887 --> 00:07:57.269 Awesome. Awesome. So, 00:07:57.269 --> 00:08:00.231 Pássaro, while we were doing our, 00:08:00.231 --> 00:08:05.094 um, like research, right, 00:08:05.094 --> 00:08:12.619 to, um, talk about the Independence Day of Brazil and give some vocabulary, 00:08:12.619 --> 00:08:17.181 because I I think it's very important to talk about important dates, 00:08:17.181 --> 00:08:23.306 for anyone who would like to know a little bit more of Brazil, but in English. 00:08:24.286 --> 00:08:31.181 I didn't know that Dom Pedro I, first of all, how would I say that in English, 00:08:31.181 --> 00:08:33.252 Dom Pedro I? Oh boy. Peter I. Oh, boy. 00:08:35.614 --> 00:08:36.994 Be it or the first. 00:08:38.596 --> 00:08:39.756 Yeah, something like that. 00:08:41.798 --> 00:08:50.083 Um, yeah, but I would like just to add to your point that it is very important 00:08:50.083 --> 00:08:57.209 and that's a really easy way to improve your English when you speak to native English speakers, 00:08:57.209 --> 00:09:02.373 they are probably going to be interested in Brazil, 00:09:02.373 --> 00:09:09.698 in your history, your culture, so just knowing like how to talk about these 00:09:09.698 --> 00:09:14.362 basic holidays and things like that, super useful. Good call, Alexia. 00:09:14.362 --> 00:09:28.291 Yeah. And then I learned that September 7th is the day of the feast of Our Lady of the Guide, 00:09:28.291 --> 00:09:32.874 which is an important religious celebration in Brazil. 00:09:33.855 --> 00:09:39.098 Guys, I don't know, I never heard about Nossa Senhora da Guia. 00:09:39.098 --> 00:09:46.163 I mean, I know that she exists, but I didn't know that it was chosen to be on 00:09:46.163 --> 00:09:50.608 the day of Nossa Senhora da Guia, Our Lady of the Guide. 00:09:51.249 --> 00:09:57.856 So Dom Pedro I chose the September 7th as an important date for the Independence 00:09:57.856 --> 00:10:00.799 Day because of this religious celebration. 00:10:02.482 --> 00:10:03.562 So here we go. 00:10:04.943 --> 00:10:06.504 You learn something new every day. 00:10:06.504 --> 00:10:08.105 Yeah. 00:10:08.105 --> 00:10:15.271 So it was not just like a totally random date. There is some significance behind it. 00:10:22.758 --> 00:10:27.410 Yeah, apparently. So allegedly, actually. Allegedly. So apart from like a churrasco, 00:10:27.410 --> 00:10:30.382 you guys don't do like big fireworks. 00:10:32.124 --> 00:10:37.247 I'm trying to think when I lived in Brazil, 00:10:37.247 --> 00:10:44.742 what I did on Independence Day, but I'm pretty sure I probably went to a church 00:10:44.742 --> 00:10:51.076 and did not really think about the history of the independence of Brazil. 00:10:51.076 --> 00:11:01.022 Yeah. And I think that another very important thing to talk about is the cry of Ipiranga, right? 00:11:02.083 --> 00:11:10.367 So it was when Dom Pedro Ipiranga went there, e deu o grito do Ipiranga, 00:11:10.367 --> 00:11:16.831 que é a Independência ou Morte, Independence or Death. So it's the cry of Ipiranga. 00:11:20.854 --> 00:11:26.356 Give me independence or give me death is very, very similar to the U.S. 00:11:26.356 --> 00:11:37.863 I think we say, like, give me liberty or give me death, which is quite a bold, dramatic statement. 00:11:37.863 --> 00:11:42.647 Yeah. But it's still happening, the Capitolium, et cetera. 00:11:46.170 --> 00:11:52.454 One more thing I would love to ask you about, Alexia, because it is Brazilian Independence Day, 00:11:52.454 --> 00:12:02.162 it seems to me that most of the Brazilians that I know personally are incredibly 00:12:02.162 --> 00:12:11.769 independent in the sense that Brazilians are everywhere and they're doing their own thing, 00:12:11.769 --> 00:12:19.615 like they're very independent, industrious, adventurous, happy people. 00:12:20.436 --> 00:12:28.082 Maybe that's just me and the people I know, but I think it is a fact that Brazilians 00:12:28.082 --> 00:12:30.944 are everywhere and I love that. 00:12:30.944 --> 00:12:36.806 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we can find Brazilians anywhere, that's 100% certain. 00:12:40.167 --> 00:12:47.750 For sure, like I was looking at TikTok the other day and there is a guy, 00:12:47.750 --> 00:12:50.411 a Brazilian guy who lives in the Arctic. 00:12:52.866 --> 00:12:53.687 Can I say that? 00:12:54.568 --> 00:12:58.750 Yeah, your connection dropped for a second. You said there was a Brazilian guy. 00:13:00.091 --> 00:13:07.256 So a Brazilian guy that I found on TikTok and he lives like in the Arctic. 00:13:08.318 --> 00:13:09.658 Yeah, you can say that. 00:13:10.098 --> 00:13:14.181 For almost like 12 years now with his dog Chico. 00:13:15.742 --> 00:13:19.685 And I mean, if there is a Brazilian with a dog in the Arctic, 00:13:19.685 --> 00:13:21.666 we are everywhere for sure. 00:13:22.367 --> 00:13:31.233 You guys are, are absolutely everywhere and my last point, Alexia, and then we'll close. 00:13:31.233 --> 00:13:37.257 No, but I would like to talk, no, but I would like to talk about our flag, our national flag. 00:13:37.257 --> 00:13:41.480 Oh, please talk to me about Verde Amaral. 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:49.706 Yeah, so our flag is yellow, green, and blue, right? 00:13:50.006 --> 00:13:52.127 So it's very beautiful. I love our flag. 00:13:53.589 --> 00:14:01.433 And now we can show how proud we are again of our flag, Entendido is Entendido. 00:14:03.194 --> 00:14:09.298 So there is a very special connection to the Independence Day because the green 00:14:09.298 --> 00:14:14.341 represents the house of Bragança, 00:14:14.341 --> 00:14:21.465 which is the Portuguese family, like Dom Pedro's family. 00:14:22.066 --> 00:14:23.827 And the other part, which is 00:14:23.827 --> 00:14:29.871 the yellow one, represents the house of Habsburg, which is from Austria. 00:14:31.212 --> 00:14:38.337 And the scholars, they came together to form the basis of Brazil's national 00:14:38.337 --> 00:14:41.419 identity after the independence, right? 00:14:41.419 --> 00:14:51.886 Because before that, the national flag was the same as the motherland, 00:14:51.886 --> 00:14:53.288 which would be Portugal. 00:14:55.311 --> 00:15:02.579 Yeah, now we have a new flag, which is our Brazil's national flag. CB. 00:15:02.579 --> 00:15:07.605 That's cool. I love the Brazilian flag. It's interesting no one really talks 00:15:07.605 --> 00:15:10.167 about the the Austrians, the Habsburgs. 00:15:12.757 --> 00:15:17.741 Yeah, everyone forgets about them. Excellent, Alexia. 00:15:17.741 --> 00:15:23.365 I have to say at the end, if you want to be more independent in your life, 00:15:23.365 --> 00:15:32.431 learning a new language is probably the thing that has given me the most independence in my life. 00:15:32.872 --> 00:15:34.813 I know it's the same for you. 00:15:35.734 --> 00:15:40.957 If you want to feel truly free to do whatever you want in the world, 00:15:41.377 --> 00:15:45.380 You're already listening to this podcast, so, good start. 00:15:46.562 --> 00:15:48.803 Yeah, good start. We are proud of you. 00:15:50.304 --> 00:15:55.268 I'm proud of you, Alexia. I'm proud of everyone that's still listening. We love you. 00:15:56.409 --> 00:15:59.190 Happy Independence Day. Mais alguma coisa? 00:15:59.190 --> 00:16:02.953 Não? Feliz Dia da Independência, galera. 00:16:04.255 --> 00:16:07.476 Go join your family, your friends, have a good show at high school, 00:16:07.476 --> 00:16:09.739 whatever you think it's best for today. 00:16:11.261 --> 00:16:14.584 Independence Day. And as always, keep up the good fight. 00:16:15.125 --> 00:16:16.305 And live well. Bye!