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Hello, hello, hey sweet people and welcome to another episode of English Nui
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Curu Hájú. My name is Foster.
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I am an English teacher, a podcaster, and as always, I am here with the one, the only… Alexia.
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Hello, everyone. Hello, Foster. How are you today?
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I am doing wonderfully. How are you doing, Alexia?
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I'm doing good. And as a matter of fact, I'm recording from home and Foster
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is recording from our co-working space because of logistics.
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Yeah, logistical difficulties. There was a lot of construction happening near
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our apartment, so we're doing it just like the old days recording remotely.
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Yeah, yeah, and before we can dive in in the episode.
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Before we can what?
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Dive in.
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Dive in.
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In. There we go. Dive in the episode.
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Happy Independence Day.
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Happy Independence Day. It is Brazilian Independence Day, the day of Brazilian independence.
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I'm not totally sure how we say that in English.
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But happy day for you, Alexia, And happy day for all of our Brazilian listeners.
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Happy Independence Day. Happy Independence Day, 7th of September.
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Alexia, how are you feeling on Independence Day?
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Normal. I think, I don't know.
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The way that I grew up with the celebrations for Independence Days just like
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once per year on the 7th of September,
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we all went downstairs to our school's patio and we used to sing the hymn.
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The hymn?
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Yeah, you know?
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The hymn.
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Hymn.
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Yeah, so same pronunciation as like hymn and her. Hymn.
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Hymn.
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The national hymn or the national anthem.
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Ah, the national anthem, much better. And it was kind of like this,
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I don't know, maybe other people who were listening to us, they had more important
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celebrations or something like that.
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But for my realities, it was only that and it was like, it is a national holiday.
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So no one will work or go to school or some things like that.
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And we all would have a barbecue together and that's it.
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So it sounds very, very Brazilian to me.
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No one goes to work and everyone has a churrasco. Yeah. Beautiful.
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Alexia, can I, just coming from my experience growing up.
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July 4th, Independence Day in the United States, was such a big deal.
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Like it's an event where there are fireworks and we always celebrated at our
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lake house and there was a big party.
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And it's like a big thing. Everyone's super patriotic and it's like one of the
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biggest holidays of the year.
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And also, Americans, they have their flags everywhere, like not only on July
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4th, but throughout the year.
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So I think that you guys are a little bit more patriotic than us Brazilians.
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Yeah, I think I would agree with that. Americans tend to love the American flag
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and putting it anywhere and everywhere.
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So Alexia, I have a lot of questions for you, but I'm going to choose my questions carefully.
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I think what I'm most interested in is how does it feel like for you as a Brazilian
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born and raised in Rio de Janeiro on Independence Day,
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you have not lived in Brazil for like five years and you are currently living in Portugal,
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the land which invaded your home country and which this entire day is celebrating
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the independence from the country in which you now live.
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Just like you have a lot of questions, but this one is very specific.
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I don't know. I feel okay.
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How are you feeling about it?
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The more the modern Portugal and the modern Brazil, I think that it's okay nowadays.
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I think no one remembers that it's the Independence Day.
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Like the Portuguese people, they don't remember that it's the Independence Day from Brazil.
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They will remember once they are studying in school, but like usually normal
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days talking to another Portuguese person, no.
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And I think that if I ask someone like our friends, our Portuguese friends,
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like, how do you feel about that? They would say, yeah, good for Brazil.
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God, because Portugal is awful, you know, like you guys did great. Yeah.
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I don't think Portuguese people are, they're over it. It's water under the bridge.
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Águas passadas. That's a good phrase in English. Water under the bridge.
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Water under the bridge. But, but I'm talking about our generation of Portuguese people.
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Yes.
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Okay. Yeah. Let's, this is another discussion.
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Yeah. There are many, many very elderly people, older people in Portugal,
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and maybe they have different perspectives.
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We don't know. Alexia, can I give you a quick pronunciation correction? Yeah.
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That's why we are here.
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That's my job. Can you pronounce the word modern?
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Modern. There we go. Modern. So, the first vowel sound is a, ma, modern. Modern.
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Perfect.
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I was hearing you say something in between, like a, a.
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I'm not sure exactly, we can listen to the recording later, but modern. That's perfect.
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Awesome. Awesome. So,
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Pássaro, while we were doing our,
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um, like research, right,
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to, um, talk about the Independence Day of Brazil and give some vocabulary,
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because I I think it's very important to talk about important dates,
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for anyone who would like to know a little bit more of Brazil, but in English.
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I didn't know that Dom Pedro I, first of all, how would I say that in English,
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Dom Pedro I? Oh boy. Peter I. Oh, boy.
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Be it or the first.
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Yeah, something like that.
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Um, yeah, but I would like just to add to your point that it is very important
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and that's a really easy way to improve your English when you speak to native English speakers,
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they are probably going to be interested in Brazil,
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in your history, your culture, so just knowing like how to talk about these
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basic holidays and things like that, super useful. Good call, Alexia.
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Yeah. And then I learned that September 7th is the day of the feast of Our Lady of the Guide,
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which is an important religious celebration in Brazil.
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Guys, I don't know, I never heard about Nossa Senhora da Guia.
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I mean, I know that she exists, but I didn't know that it was chosen to be on
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the day of Nossa Senhora da Guia, Our Lady of the Guide.
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So Dom Pedro I chose the September 7th as an important date for the Independence
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Day because of this religious celebration.
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So here we go.
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You learn something new every day.
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Yeah.
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So it was not just like a totally random date. There is some significance behind it.
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Yeah, apparently. So allegedly, actually. Allegedly. So apart from like a churrasco,
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you guys don't do like big fireworks.
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I'm trying to think when I lived in Brazil,
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what I did on Independence Day, but I'm pretty sure I probably went to a church
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and did not really think about the history of the independence of Brazil.
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Yeah. And I think that another very important thing to talk about is the cry of Ipiranga, right?
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So it was when Dom Pedro Ipiranga went there, e deu o grito do Ipiranga,
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que é a Independência ou Morte, Independence or Death. So it's the cry of Ipiranga.
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Give me independence or give me death is very, very similar to the U.S.
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I think we say, like, give me liberty or give me death, which is quite a bold, dramatic statement.
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Yeah. But it's still happening, the Capitolium, et cetera.
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One more thing I would love to ask you about, Alexia, because it is Brazilian Independence Day,
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it seems to me that most of the Brazilians that I know personally are incredibly
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independent in the sense that Brazilians are everywhere and they're doing their own thing,
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like they're very independent, industrious, adventurous, happy people.
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Maybe that's just me and the people I know, but I think it is a fact that Brazilians
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are everywhere and I love that.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we can find Brazilians anywhere, that's 100% certain.
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For sure, like I was looking at TikTok the other day and there is a guy,
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a Brazilian guy who lives in the Arctic.
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Can I say that?
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Yeah, your connection dropped for a second. You said there was a Brazilian guy.
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So a Brazilian guy that I found on TikTok and he lives like in the Arctic.
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Yeah, you can say that.
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For almost like 12 years now with his dog Chico.
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And I mean, if there is a Brazilian with a dog in the Arctic,
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we are everywhere for sure.
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You guys are, are absolutely everywhere and my last point, Alexia, and then we'll close.
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No, but I would like to talk, no, but I would like to talk about our flag, our national flag.
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Oh, please talk to me about Verde Amaral.
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Yeah, so our flag is yellow, green, and blue, right?
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So it's very beautiful. I love our flag.
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And now we can show how proud we are again of our flag, Entendido is Entendido.
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So there is a very special connection to the Independence Day because the green
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represents the house of Bragança,
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which is the Portuguese family, like Dom Pedro's family.
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And the other part, which is
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the yellow one, represents the house of Habsburg, which is from Austria.
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And the scholars, they came together to form the basis of Brazil's national
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identity after the independence, right?
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Because before that, the national flag was the same as the motherland,
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which would be Portugal.
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Yeah, now we have a new flag, which is our Brazil's national flag. CB.
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That's cool. I love the Brazilian flag. It's interesting no one really talks
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about the the Austrians, the Habsburgs.
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Yeah, everyone forgets about them. Excellent, Alexia.
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I have to say at the end, if you want to be more independent in your life,
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learning a new language is probably the thing that has given me the most independence in my life.
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I know it's the same for you.
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If you want to feel truly free to do whatever you want in the world,
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You're already listening to this podcast, so, good start.
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Yeah, good start. We are proud of you.
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I'm proud of you, Alexia. I'm proud of everyone that's still listening. We love you.
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Happy Independence Day. Mais alguma coisa?
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Não? Feliz Dia da Independência, galera.
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Go join your family, your friends, have a good show at high school,
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whatever you think it's best for today.
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Independence Day. And as always, keep up the good fight.
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And live well. Bye!